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Post by chris426 on Dec 27, 2005 0:13:41 GMT -5
i've been trying to figure out what to put in my charger, and i decided to put a 5.7 hemi in it, i would go with a 426 but they are too expensive for me.
so what would i do for a tranny? would a 727 bolt up? and what about a wiring harness? cam? motor mounts? i'm trying to figure out how hard it will be before i buy one. or if i should just freshen up the 360.
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Post by stris141 on Dec 27, 2005 0:51:26 GMT -5
Chris, Kind of depends on what you're trying to do. If you want to keep it more or less stock, then I'd build up the 360. You can get some great HP out of them. But if you really want to hotrod it, then a Hemi could be a cool way to go. I would think, the 727 would be able to take care of the power, of any Hemi. Not sure if it would hook up with the 5.7. But if you do go Hemi, make sure you beef up the 727. That is, if you're going to be really building a bad azz street rod.
Steve
Steve
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Post by chris426 on Dec 27, 2005 9:57:41 GMT -5
i just want a hemi, and it would be pretty sweet, something you don't see everyday, i think they make the wiring harnesses and all to put the hemi in the older mopars, either that or i would go with an MSD ignition.
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Post by doba75 on Dec 27, 2005 10:09:46 GMT -5
I think the only problem you will have is finding a 5.7 hemi not unless there is a wrecked one in the local junkyard?
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Post by stris141 on Dec 27, 2005 10:26:13 GMT -5
Chris, I know there are a couple different companys, that do custom wireing. Can't think of the names right now. But I'm sure if you do a search on your pc's search engine, you should be able to find them.
Steve
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Post by chris426 on Dec 27, 2005 16:41:37 GMT -5
no there's been alot of em on ebay right now.
i was looking on the internet, and the 727 won't bolt up, and the hemi tranny is electronically controlled with an electronic govenor "don't need a goevnoer that's for sure" i'm wanting to do away with all the computer contorlled goveners and all that. probably gonna put a demon 4bbl carb, and dual plane weiand intake on it. thinkin' i'm gonna have to email raptorfab about the adaptor plate, and talk to some of the local mopar guys around here. i know they put the magnum 360 truck engines in their hotrods all the time.
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Post by rrone on Dec 27, 2005 20:26:24 GMT -5
you would have to have the entire wiring harness from the truck the hemi came out of. you would have to run the new elec trans with it also. if you dont want a governor than put a hypertech chip in it. it wouldnt be easy or cheap but it can be done.
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Post by chris426 on Dec 27, 2005 23:30:14 GMT -5
i was wanting to do away with all the computer controlled stuff, i know they make the 5.7 crate engines with the carbarator set up.
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Dec 28, 2005 5:02:51 GMT -5
Let's start here for that overdrive tranny swap .
[ftp]http://www.transmissioncenter.net/alto_3.htm[/ftp]
As I find more I will let you know , Ok !
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Post by chryslerfat on Dec 28, 2005 13:15:31 GMT -5
If you dont like the cost of the hemi or the computer then go with a 440 these are a plenty powerful motor and they do make hemi kits for the big blocks. I have a 440 in a street rod and am considering a hemi conversion kit for it. Then i would have a 440 hemi that should be confusing to people. lol
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Post by chris426 on Dec 28, 2005 14:19:18 GMT -5
yeah but i was kinda wanting a small hemi, people would walk up to it, and look, and first think it's just a small block mopar, then see where the spark plugs are, then be like what the heck is that? a 440 hemi don't sound very economical, sounds like a gas hog, "wait a minute who's worried about gas milage in a hotrod?" dude they seriously make em for big blocks? if they make one that i can do for the 360 that would be awesome
thanks for the info shorty
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Post by doba75 on Dec 28, 2005 15:01:57 GMT -5
I haven't be checken but does anyone know how much a hemi is going for (just wondering)
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Post by chryslerfat on Dec 28, 2005 15:25:03 GMT -5
Yes but the kits are for big blocks only. It includes the heads oil return lines etc. The kits vary from 5 grand to 11 grand.
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Dec 28, 2005 18:11:39 GMT -5
Wanna fuel inject it ? Try this link.
[ftp]http://ramchargercentral.com/index.php?action=howtoshow;id=88[/ftp]
This shows and tells you how to put a TBI unit on . It'll basically dovetail it for you . You can upgrade to hwatever you need , ok !
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Post by chris426 on Dec 28, 2005 23:46:52 GMT -5
man i think i can buy a 500 stroker for that. lol
the hemi 5.7 crate engine with efi is $7799 and the carb version is $7499 but they have the truck engines on ebay sometimes from $1500-up.
cool shorty, gonna go find some mopar forums and check with some of those mopar guys, if it looks to be too expensive i might just hop up the 360, or put the 400 out my newport in it, or talk my dad out a 440, but i kinda want to keep the weight down.
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Dec 29, 2005 5:06:21 GMT -5
Chris you ever see that HotRod issue where they did up a 318 to over 400hp ? I think it was Junkyard Jewel .
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Post by stris141 on Dec 29, 2005 14:48:46 GMT -5
I read that one Shorty. I can't remember all of it, but they had some awsome HP just using stock parts. Didn't it have something to do, with putting some 340 heads on it? And something about a intake, that had some surface ground off it?
Steve
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Post by chris426 on Dec 29, 2005 17:19:49 GMT -5
yeah i got some 340 "x" heads, i figure it would be less headaches that way, and less money and i know how to work on the 360 i'll put the hemi in later on down the road but if one of you will do it first, then i'll know how hard it is, and what i need
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Post by chris426 on Dec 29, 2005 17:21:49 GMT -5
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Dec 29, 2005 17:59:18 GMT -5
Actually they used a set of 302 heads . lol , 4323302 casting that is . They opened the pockets and put in lager valves .
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Post by chris426 on Dec 31, 2005 2:42:16 GMT -5
u mean 302 ford heads? that would be kinda hard, and kinda dumb, because the ford has way smaller ports and all, and that just sounds impossible almost
so what u all think i should do to the 360? i want something to smoke those little riceburners off the road. what kind of cam should i use? kinda wanting to go with the stock torque converter and all, and don't want to have to do too much to the tranny i'll just put a shift kit in it. maybe get the tranny rebuilt, and get the motor balanced. thinking about going with a set of magnum heads, but what modifications will i have to do for that?
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Dec 31, 2005 12:26:47 GMT -5
No ,no , not ford heads ! Those are casting referance numbers. The full numbers are 4323302. The same heads that they used on the 318 junkyard jewel build . A set of pre - magnum heads flow pretty good . I don't know the nuimbers off hand , but you'll know those when you see the "R T" on the heads . Did I mention that they were R T heads ? As for as the cam goes , you'll have to do some checking around . You 'll need to calculate weight , gear ratios , tranny used , carb size . Look at the possibility that a stall converter is needed . Which intake your gonna need , compression ratio for which set of pistons you decide on,,,,,,what size tires,,,,,. ok !
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Post by chris426 on Dec 31, 2005 22:24:15 GMT -5
what has the RT on em? the magnum heads? i can tell the magnum heads because they have the roller rockers, and the big exhaust ports
lemme tell ya, this car is gonna be something to see when i get done with it
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Jan 1, 2006 10:53:46 GMT -5
They are pre - magnum heads .
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Post by chris426 on Jan 1, 2006 22:56:27 GMT -5
oh so instead of like having a "j" or an "X" casting they say R or T?
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Jan 2, 2006 0:33:34 GMT -5
actually I'm told it says RT .
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Post by chris426 on Jan 3, 2006 23:30:20 GMT -5
havent seen any with an rt on em. i'll start paying more attention
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Post by rrone on Jan 6, 2006 19:10:23 GMT -5
chris them x heads are junk--- if you need a good set of 360 heads let me know and i will help you out and trade with you. i would go your heads and a 100$ for my heads. lmk lol
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Post by dadicted on Jan 6, 2006 22:13:07 GMT -5
well since shorty has all the perfect sites maybe he could find me a site where i can purchase some 7quart or over oil pans. and some tranny pans that will hold more fluid as well.
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Post by Shorty Thompson on Jan 7, 2006 18:03:36 GMT -5
For what make ?
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